Comments on: Why We Really Don’t Need an “Identity Selector” http://upon2020.com/2009/11/why-we-really-dont-need-an-identity-selector/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=why-we-really-dont-need-an-identity-selector The Next Decade In Technology: Musings by Johannes Ernst Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:50:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: INSTANT-SOFT.INFO : Johannes Ernst: Kynetx, Azigo Show What is Possible With a Personal Data Store http://upon2020.com/2009/11/why-we-really-dont-need-an-identity-selector/comment-page-1/#comment-199 INSTANT-SOFT.INFO : Johannes Ernst: Kynetx, Azigo Show What is Possible With a Personal Data Store Sun, 20 Dec 2009 04:22:43 +0000 http://netmesh.info/jernst/?p=324#comment-199 [...] Selector”, for years billed as the savior of the identity universe (see my recent post Why We Really Don’t Need an “Identity Selector”). This week at Kynetx’ conference, Paul and Phil had their coming-out party re-interpreting the [...] [...] Selector”, for years billed as the savior of the identity universe (see my recent post Why We Really Don’t Need an “Identity Selector”). This week at Kynetx’ conference, Paul and Phil had their coming-out party re-interpreting the [...]

]]> By: SOFTTUTOR.INFO » We Need More Than a Selector http://upon2020.com/2009/11/why-we-really-dont-need-an-identity-selector/comment-page-1/#comment-198 SOFTTUTOR.INFO » We Need More Than a Selector Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:25:32 +0000 http://netmesh.info/jernst/?p=324#comment-198 [...] you glance at Johannes Ernst’s latest blog post, Why We Really Don’t Need an “Identity Selector”, you might think he’s speaking out against identity clients, but in reality, he’s [...] [...] you glance at Johannes Ernst’s latest blog post, Why We Really Don’t Need an “Identity Selector”, you might think he’s speaking out against identity clients, but in reality, he’s [...]

]]> By: We Need More Than a Selector | Hosted Email Servers http://upon2020.com/2009/11/why-we-really-dont-need-an-identity-selector/comment-page-1/#comment-197 We Need More Than a Selector | Hosted Email Servers Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:50:33 +0000 http://netmesh.info/jernst/?p=324#comment-197 [...] you glance at Johannes Ernst’s latest blog post, Why We Really Don’t Need an “Identity Selector”, you might think he’s speaking out against identity clients, but in reality, he’s [...] [...] you glance at Johannes Ernst’s latest blog post, Why We Really Don’t Need an “Identity Selector”, you might think he’s speaking out against identity clients, but in reality, he’s [...]

]]> By: Johannes Ernst http://upon2020.com/2009/11/why-we-really-dont-need-an-identity-selector/comment-page-1/#comment-196 Johannes Ernst Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:37:23 +0000 http://netmesh.info/jernst/?p=324#comment-196 Re Josh: some of the discussions at IIW involved the Mozilla guys... so yes! Re Josh: some of the discussions at IIW involved the Mozilla guys… so yes!

]]> By: Josh Surber http://upon2020.com/2009/11/why-we-really-dont-need-an-identity-selector/comment-page-1/#comment-195 Josh Surber Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:17:11 +0000 http://netmesh.info/jernst/?p=324#comment-195 Mozilla's Weave is splitting off an identity extension that will offer quite a bit of the features you quote in this article. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Labs/Weave/Identity/Account_Manager Mozilla’s Weave is splitting off an identity extension that will offer quite a bit of the features you quote in this article. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Labs/Weave/Identity/Account_Manager

]]> By: flutterby.net/User:DanLyk… http://upon2020.com/2009/11/why-we-really-dont-need-an-identity-selector/comment-page-1/#comment-194 flutterby.net/User:DanLyk… Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:23:47 +0000 http://netmesh.info/jernst/?p=324#comment-194 Given that for the most part we're choosing an identifier more than an identity, and that many sites (like Facebook) are now smart enough to let us have identities which transcend our personal ones, yeah, I don't see the point. As you say, it's an extremely small portion of our use case, and I now just add extra accounts to my computers when I let someone else use them because there's a lot more than just my sign-ons that I want to keep from exposing to guest users. I think more important than selectors are rules for how long we remain log in from different access modes. For instance, for the most part (ie: everything but banking) I don't ever want to log out from my iPhone because I never want to have to enter a password again on that silly excuse for a keyboard (or, as long as I'm still entering passwords, have to carry around a sheet of paper with all of them on it: Too many phishing attempts recently to use common passwords. Sigh). I regularly have two machines on my desktop that I'd like to have logged in to sites. Several sites (I'm looking at you, Twitter) are aggressive about signing me off if I sign on from another computer, which is extremely annoying. I can work around it with clients, but that kills their potential advertising revenue. Sorry, just a couple disjointed thoughts, while waiting for a compile, I'll try to be more coherent in a bit. Given that for the most part we’re choosing an identifier more than an identity, and that many sites (like Facebook) are now smart enough to let us have identities which transcend our personal ones, yeah, I don’t see the point. As you say, it’s an extremely small portion of our use case, and I now just add extra accounts to my computers when I let someone else use them because there’s a lot more than just my sign-ons that I want to keep from exposing to guest users.

I think more important than selectors are rules for how long we remain log in from different access modes. For instance, for the most part (ie: everything but banking) I don’t ever want to log out from my iPhone because I never want to have to enter a password again on that silly excuse for a keyboard (or, as long as I’m still entering passwords, have to carry around a sheet of paper with all of them on it: Too many phishing attempts recently to use common passwords. Sigh). I regularly have two machines on my desktop that I’d like to have logged in to sites.

Several sites (I’m looking at you, Twitter) are aggressive about signing me off if I sign on from another computer, which is extremely annoying. I can work around it with clients, but that kills their potential advertising revenue.

Sorry, just a couple disjointed thoughts, while waiting for a compile, I’ll try to be more coherent in a bit.

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