{"id":176,"date":"2005-11-28T08:11:00","date_gmt":"2005-11-28T16:11:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/netmesh.info\/jernst\/uncategorized\/dave-winer-proposes-to-use-urls-for-digital-identity"},"modified":"2005-11-28T08:11:00","modified_gmt":"2005-11-28T16:11:00","slug":"dave-winer-proposes-to-use-urls-for-digital-identity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/upon2020.com\/blog\/2005\/11\/dave-winer-proposes-to-use-urls-for-digital-identity\/","title":{"rendered":"Dave Winer proposes to use URLs for digital identity"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Dave Winer <a href=\"http:\/\/www.opml.org\/2005\/11\/19#a203\" target=\"_blank\">proposes<\/a> to use URLs instead of e-mail addresses to identify the document creator in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.opml.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">OPML<\/a> feeds. His proposal is another sign in the rapidly growing consensus to use URLs for digital identity: from <a href=\"http:\/\/lid.netmesh.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">LID<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/openid.net\/\" target=\"_blank\">OpenID<\/a> to <a href=\"http:\/\/yadis.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">YADIS<\/a> and now <a href=\"http:\/\/www.opml.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">OPML<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>He says:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>When OPML was designed, over five years ago, spam wasn&#8217;t the problem that it is today. It made sense then to identify the owner of a document in the most straightforward manner, using an email address&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>In 2005, it&#8217;s really hard to recommend that people include valid email addresses in a public document[s]&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><b>For discussion: A new sub-element of <tt>&lt;head&gt;<\/tt><\/b><\/p>\n<p><tt>&lt;ownerId&gt;<\/tt> is the address of a web page that contains an HTML form that allows a human reader to communicate with the author of the document via email or other means.<\/p>\n<p><b>Example<\/b><\/p>\n<p><tt>&lt;ownerId&gt;http:\/\/www.opml.org\/profiles\/sendMail?usernum=1&lt;\/ownerId&gt;<\/tt><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>It&#8217;s great that someone as senior and influential as Dave Winer comes to the same conclusion: URLs are very well suited not only to identify companies (like <code><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/<\/a><\/code>) and documents (like <code><a href=\"http:\/\/www.opml.org\/spec\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.opml.org\/spec<\/a><\/code>) and so forth, but people as well (like myself at <code><a href=\"http:\/\/netmesh.info\/jernst\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/netmesh.info\/jernst<\/a><\/code>).<\/p>\n<p>The consensus for the use of URLs to identify people is emerging as follows:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The user sets up a home page at a URL of her choice. This could be her blog, her ISP&#8217;s web account, a Geocities home page or any other page she has control over. She makes sure the home page contains a &#8220;magic marker&#8221; that states that this is an identity URL (exact details currently being finalized within <a href=\"http:\/\/yadis.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">YADIS.org<\/a> &mdash; the place where all people interested in URL-based identity approaches come together &mdash; but most likely an HTML <code>&lt;link&gt;<\/code> or <code>&lt;meta&gt;<\/code> tag containing a URL, with shortcuts for those who can configure their own web server).<\/li>\n<li>The magic marker points to the identity service that the user chooses, such as a LID or OpenID server. Given that all URL-based digital identity technologies are inherently decentralized, she won&#8217;t be locked into one particular company that provides this service, and she might even run her own identity service (e.g. by using an open source <a href=\"http:\/\/lid.netmesh.org\/wiki\/LID_Implementations\" target=\"_blank\">implementation<\/a>).<\/li>\n<li>When the user needs to identify herself on the net, e.g. as author of a document (OPML or otherwise), as submitter of a blog comment, or to identify herself when logging into a website, she uses the URL of her home page. The identity server will perform single-sign-on for her, so she doesn&#8217;t need to remember more passwords either, and identity-enabled software can easily confirm that it is indeed her instead of somebody impersonating her.<\/li>\n<li>When somebody wants to find out more about the user, they can simply go to her homepage and find out whatever she chooses to publish there. She might put a web form there that allows others to contact her as suggested by Dave; of course, there&#8217;s nothing OPML-specific about the need to contact people on the internet.<\/li>\n<li>If she pointed her magic marker to a <a href=\"http:\/\/lid.netmesh.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">LID<\/a>-enabled identity server, she would also get things like controlled information sharing, and <a href=\"http:\/\/lid.netmesh.org\/wiki\/LID_2.0_VCard_Profile\" target=\"_blank\">LID profile exchange<\/a> based on access rights she can define on a per-user or per-group basis. <a href=\"http:\/\/lid.netmesh.org\/wiki\/LID_2.0_POST_Sender_Profile\" target=\"_blank\">LID Authenticated messaging<\/a> expands on the idea of a simple message-sending form by allowing the submitter to identify themselves, and allowing the identity owner to define different message routing rules based on the identity of the message sender.<\/li>\n<li>Many other interesting features are being created as we speak around URL-based identity by variety of people. They are possible only because it&#8217;s easy to build new cool things based on URLs (think tagging, for example), and not so easy with non-URL-based technologies, which is another great argument for URL-based identities.<\/li>\n<li>By setting up as many independent home pages as she likes to, she can have as many independent identities as she likes to.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>We&#8217;ll publish how to do all of this with your home page and a <a href=\"http:\/\/mylid.net\/\">MyLID<\/a> digital identity and other implementations as soon as the YADIS spec is finalized. You can <a href=\"http:\/\/signup.mylid.net\/signup\/\">sign up<\/a> for one already or download <a href=\"http:\/\/netmesh.org\/downloads\/\">code<\/a> (open source, or commercial license) to run your own.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dave Winer proposes to use URLs instead of e-mail addresses to identify the document creator in OPML feeds. His proposal is another sign in the rapidly growing consensus to use URLs for digital identity: from LID, OpenID to YADIS and now OPML. 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