{"id":403,"date":"2009-08-28T09:40:08","date_gmt":"2009-08-28T17:40:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/netmesh.info\/jernst\/?p=309"},"modified":"2009-08-28T09:40:08","modified_gmt":"2009-08-28T17:40:08","slug":"if-the-open-stack-is-mere-plumbing-the-plumbing-of-what","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/upon2020.com\/blog\/2009\/08\/if-the-open-stack-is-mere-plumbing-the-plumbing-of-what\/","title":{"rendered":"If the Open Stack Is Mere Plumbing: The Plumbing Of What?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>People don&#8217;t buy plumbing, they buy a nice house that happens to include plumbing (otherwise it wouldn&#8217;t be a nice house).<\/p>\n<p>So if OpenID and all the other members of the &#8220;Open Stack&#8221; are <a href=\"http:\/\/netmesh.info\/jernst\/big_picture\/the-open-stack-or-mere-plumbing\">mere plumbing<\/a>, as I have come to believe, they are the plumbing of what? What is the equivalent of the house here, i.e. the thing that people buy or want?<\/p>\n<p>It could be the plumbing of the internet. Like HTTP, TCP\/IP, DNS and so forth. But I think that misses the picture: stovepipe sites work just fine on the internet without these new technologies.<\/p>\n<p>It could be the plumbing of what some people now call the &#8220;social web&#8221;. Perhaps, but I have to admit I have a hard time believing that anybody will go out and want to acquire &#8220;the social web&#8221; like they would acquire a house. It&#8217;s even easier to say &#8220;I&#8217;m going to get an OpenID today&#8221; than it is to say &#8220;I&#8217;m going to get the social web today&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>I think that &#8220;what&#8221; is the big elephant that has been in the room since the very first identity discussion that I participated in so many years ago.<\/p>\n<p><strong>That<\/strong> is what we need to figure out, as a budding industry, more than anything. Plumbers have no business, and plumbing supply stores have no customers, unless there are houses and people want to buy them.<\/p>\n<p>I do have some opinions &#8230; some other day.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>People don&#8217;t buy plumbing, they buy a nice house that happens to include plumbing (otherwise it wouldn&#8217;t be a nice house). So if OpenID and all the other members of the &#8220;Open Stack&#8221; are mere plumbing, as I have come to believe, they are the plumbing of what? What is the equivalent of the house&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"webmentions_disabled":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[60],"tags":[114,115,116],"class_list":["post-403","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-digital_identity","tag-oauth","tag-open-stack","tag-openid","kind-"],"kind":false,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/upon2020.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/403","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/upon2020.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/upon2020.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/upon2020.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/upon2020.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=403"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/upon2020.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/403\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/upon2020.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=403"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/upon2020.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=403"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/upon2020.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=403"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}